Comments on: Polycystic Kidney Disease and The Mind http://innergameofpkd.com/2010/01/28/polycystic-kidney-disease-and-the-mind/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=polycystic-kidney-disease-and-the-mind Easing Your Journey On Your PKD Odyssey Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:33:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: CoachRichie http://innergameofpkd.com/2010/01/28/polycystic-kidney-disease-and-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-133 CoachRichie Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:27:48 +0000 http://innergameofpkd.com/?p=444#comment-133 Steve, Yes! That's the way it works! THanks for your comments! Peace and Blessings! Coach Richie Perl Steve,

Yes! That’s the way it works!
THanks for your comments!

Peace and Blessings!
Coach Richie Perl

]]> By: Steve Jackson http://innergameofpkd.com/2010/01/28/polycystic-kidney-disease-and-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-131 Steve Jackson Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:21:55 +0000 http://innergameofpkd.com/?p=444#comment-131 Yes having PKD sucks and not havining any kidneys due it sucks also,I don't let it get me down tho,I just look in the mirror in the mornings thank God I'm still here and figurge there is someone somewhere worse off than me. Just keep smiling it make people wonder what your thinking about. God blees you coach Steve Yes having PKD sucks and not havining any kidneys due it sucks also,I don’t let it get me down tho,I just look in the mirror in the mornings thank God I’m still here and figurge there is someone somewhere worse off than me.
Just keep smiling it make people wonder what your thinking about.
God blees you coach
Steve

]]> By: CoachRichie http://innergameofpkd.com/2010/01/28/polycystic-kidney-disease-and-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-130 CoachRichie Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:24:25 +0000 http://innergameofpkd.com/?p=444#comment-130 I'm Curious. Who determines a) "the reality of their condition" and b) what that "feeling" is, and where is it written that those, or any "feelings" are fixed? I don't understand your statement "the profound disconnect between the surrounding reality which should logically drive the patient’s mood in one direction, and the inner reality of the patient which was driving the patient’s mood in the opposite direction." I gather then, you have never tried to "cheer up" someone, or have never been "cheered up" by someone else! In your scenario, attempting to "cheer up" someone would tantamount to a crime! In my posts, I never say that having PKD is "good." I say it sucks. But people who lived before either of us were born, and people who will be around after we are gone, have OVERCOME the "suckiness" of adversity and lived fulfilling lives. You certainly have the right to wallow in misery, if that's your choice. It isn't mine. Peace and Blessings! Coach Richie Perl I’m Curious.

Who determines a) “the reality of their condition” and
b) what that “feeling” is, and

where is it written that those, or any “feelings” are fixed?

I don’t understand your statement “the profound disconnect between the surrounding reality which should logically drive the patient’s mood in one direction, and the inner reality of the patient which was driving the patient’s mood in the opposite direction.”

I gather then, you have never tried to “cheer up” someone, or have never been “cheered up” by someone else!
In your scenario, attempting to “cheer up” someone would tantamount to a crime!

In my posts, I never say that having PKD is “good.” I say it sucks.
But people who lived before either of us were born, and people who will be around after we are gone, have OVERCOME the “suckiness” of adversity and lived fulfilling lives.

You certainly have the right to wallow in misery, if that’s your choice.
It isn’t mine.

Peace and Blessings!
Coach Richie Perl

]]> By: somerville http://innergameofpkd.com/2010/01/28/polycystic-kidney-disease-and-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-128 somerville Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:11:23 +0000 http://innergameofpkd.com/?p=444#comment-128 The worst of all psychiatric illnesses is psychosis, defined as a profound disconnect between the mental state of the patient and the surrounding reality. To avoid this, the only realistic strategy is to try to understand and respond to the reality around you in the most objectively accurate way possible. If you go around telling yourself lies about how hideous your life with PKD actually is, you are destroying your human dignity by reducing yourself to the level of a psychotic in order to feel happy when there is no objective justification for that mood. You then have what Manfred Bleuler in 1911 first described as 'schizo-phrenia,' or 'divided drives,' referring to the profound disconnect between the surrounding reality which should logically drive the patient's mood in one direction, and the inner reality of the patient which was driving the patient's mood in the opposite direction. I think it is preferable for patients to maintain their sanity by honestly feeling the reality of their condition rather than making themselves insane with idiotic 'life coaching skills.' The worst of all psychiatric illnesses is psychosis, defined as a profound disconnect between the mental state of the patient and the surrounding reality. To avoid this, the only realistic strategy is to try to understand and respond to the reality around you in the most objectively accurate way possible. If you go around telling yourself lies about how hideous your life with PKD actually is, you are destroying your human dignity by reducing yourself to the level of a psychotic in order to feel happy when there is no objective justification for that mood. You then have what Manfred Bleuler in 1911 first described as ‘schizo-phrenia,’ or ‘divided drives,’ referring to the profound disconnect between the surrounding reality which should logically drive the patient’s mood in one direction, and the inner reality of the patient which was driving the patient’s mood in the opposite direction. I think it is preferable for patients to maintain their sanity by honestly feeling the reality of their condition rather than making themselves insane with idiotic ‘life coaching skills.’

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